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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Nov 15, 2009 1:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: '67 Dead at Wolfgang's...

Not being a torrent guy, I did flip them some cash to DL this . Not super sound quality but happy to have this 1st album era show .For filler I got the 2 songs listed as 2/12/67 ( some think it is 11/19/66) . So I get 2 Smokestacks, the 2/12/67 one is darker sounding ( some tape warble here ).
It is a shame we don't have more from this pivotable year , like hominid fossils we have to imagine the "missing links". Here they are in their early psychedelic phase , stretching out a few songs, but it is still a Pig-o-centric group at this point .
Of al years, this is the one I wish it would turnout , they really did tape a bunch of the shows . W. Tell would opt of 68 , I think, but as few tapes as we have from 68, it is a feast compared to the few morsels from 67 .

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Nov 15, 2009 2:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: '67 Dead at Wolfgang's...

It's a shame so little survives from '67. It's my favorite year of the Dead.
The reason we don't have many recordings is because Bear wasn't with them.... He left them after the Vancouver July '66 shows, and rejoined them in June '68. So there's a big sbd recording gap in-between....a couple exceptions are Sept 3-4 '67 (Bear visited them at Rio Nido and recorded those shows), and of course the band recorded themselves for Anthem (the Shrine Nov '67 shows, then Jan-March '68 tour). The rest, including the Winterland '67 shows, are outside taping jobs.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 15, 2009 4:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: '67 Dead at Wolfgang's...

Really!?

Very cool to hear, LiA...a man after my own heart.

Can I ask if you have ever done an analysis of what I think is a grossly under-rated song, TGRTULD (hmmm...that was long...Golden Road I mean)?

I love that tune, and though tough to pull off live, I wish we had more than 5 (right?)!?!

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Nov 15, 2009 9:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Golden Road

We only have two live Golden Roads, that I remember. I've never written about it....

The Dead wrote it at Warner Bro's request for the first album, so there would be no performances before Jan '67. It probably didn't last in their sets past the summer/fall.

Not sure where you get five versions from....maybe from the notoriously inaccurate setlists.net.
Let's see what they list...
12/18/65 Big Beat Club - an obvious hoax, the setlist probably borrowed from 5/5/67.
4/12/67 Fillmore - the only song listed. Well, they might have played it.
6/8/67 Cafe au Go Go - a very nice-looking setlist which includes Cream Puff, New Potato, Alligator>Caution, Born Cross-Eyed, and Cryptical. Clearly a complete fake.

Back in the real world, there was apparently also a video of Golden Road from a '60s British TV show called Whicker's World.
A description: "The Golden Road complete and uncut. 5 minutes in length, color, picture quality is fair, sound quality is good (say B+). The video portion is intense to watch. Strobe lights are flashing and the camera zooms in and out very fast on the band members. It appears that Mickey was not there. There is a lot of footage of people dancing (and the guy doing the oil-based light show)."
The British narrator announces the clip: "An assault on the senses, an LSD trip without drugs. Flashing strobe lights, spermatazoic color."
Sad to say, the Golden Road is not live, but dubbed from the album.

This post was modified by light into ashes on 2009-11-16 05:03:08

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 16, 2009 6:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Golden Road: only two available...

Yep, I have always had two, one from Mar and one from "May" (whether that's the actual date or not, I have no clue)...I think the "five?" came from a discussion here some time ago, BUT you are no doubt correct in that I assume it was simply the result of a search at Set.Lists, so, case "closed".

However, if I am not mistaken, someone else seemed to suggest there were "more" played, not many, but more than the two we have here.

That was why I was asking--ie, thinking you might have researched it and come up with more.

Thanks.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Nov 15, 2009 6:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: '67 Dead at Wolfgang's...

TGRTULD?!?!? Too long and spelled incorrectly. TGRTUD. That's better. Much more efficient and easier to pronounce.

As for the show. Love it. My favorite Dancin' TGRTUD and CPW. Of course I am not sure I have heard any other live TGRTUDs. Maybe one. And the show is part of one of my favorite trivia questions. They played Winterland on 3-18-67 and 3-18-77. Can't any other band could have done that (same venue exactly 10 years apart).

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 15, 2009 8:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: '67 Dead at Wolfgang's...

Well, sure...yu were not "limited" as I was by the Word Police to be certain to clearly articulate EVER word root, even one that historically had actually been two, "un limited", only to be struck down in its prime, by the Hyphen Police, and transformed to "un-limited" and even in the dark before our time, further subverted to what YOU think you know, as "unlimited".

But, I digress.

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Poster: SeaKlock Date: Nov 15, 2009 8:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: '67 Dead at Wolfgang's...

I taped from the late 70s to late 80s with a SBD gift thrown in every once and while. Most the Audience recording here were the primo tapes to obtain at the time and stocked piled. Now all we have is a board full of pissants expecting instant gratification.
What ever happened to no work no gain ? ....I'd say more, but I respect some of you folks.

Onward HD 7.1

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Nov 15, 2009 2:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: '67 Dead at Wolfgang's...

Agreed, there really seems to be a lack of good '67 recordings, considering how often the Dead played that year...

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Poster: charlie,cosmically Date: Nov 15, 2009 2:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: '67 Dead at Wolfgang's...

And I think it just might stay that way sadly. It seems that Owsley was more dedicated to taping than more than anyone else, so his departure (Oct 66-Jul 68) accounts for the lack of a consistant interest in making recordings, soundboard and otherwise. It's really a shame.